New list, at 2k
Lord:
Spellweaver: lvl 4 wizard (life) 313pts
Dispel scroll
Glamourwave Kindred
Elven steed
Core:
10 glade guard: banner of eternal flame 142pts
10 glade guard 120
10 glade guard 120
10 glade guard 120
Special:
7 Treekin, 455pts
6 Treekin, 390pts
Rare:
Treeman 285pts
Great Eagle 50pts
Total: 1995pts
Thoughts: This drops the VERY expensive magic protection of the rhymers harp + unicorn combo to add another unit of treekin at the cost of dryads, 2 unit champions, an eagle and the magic protection..
It does mean that I have two hard units, and that with regrowth and lifebloom I have a good chance of making them stick..
It does mean that I am super vulnerable to warmachines, engineered flame runed cannons for example.. I do have 1 eagle to hunt warmachines and can force some hard choices.. against empire it's not soo bad as i get my 5+ ward which can stop a cannonball straight.. and regrowth again is great..
I do lose look out sir, cos I'm not the same sized base at the rest of the unit.. (need to look that up) if the spellweaver is on a horse and is in the treekin..
Deamons.. how bad the deamon match up I'm talking horror hordes with firestorms, flickering fires and miscelaneous flaming death galores is remains to be seen.. I have a lvl 4 with a dispel scroll whihc hopefully can keep my units intact till we make it to combat at which point it's not so bad.. Bloodthirster with flaming axe.. err yeah I guess I try and redirect with the eagle and if I had to engage do it with a toughness 8/10 treeman.. it's generally not good.
warriors of chaos.. treekin pre buff can take chaos warriors on a fair match up, as long as I don't go against 30 chaos warriors with flaming halberds.. umm yeah again = awkward.
watchtower: with no starting troops that I particularly want to start in the watch tower.. I have to garrison with glade guard until I can get the treekin in.. not necessarily a problem but could be awkward. As it puts me on a back foot from the start.. not sure if reforming with 7 treekin is enough to get 12 inches.. somehow I doubt it..
Well it performed well in the test game today, beating a 2 stone horn, and 3 units of morgfang cavalry ogre list, but it was true he had no wizard.. so I was dwellering his 20 man ogre unit and flesh to stoning treekin/treemen left right and centre.. Looking forward to next monday.. where a new report is due and i'l get round to putting the dwarf one up some time as well..
Hmm, one point against moving to an elven steed is that they are on a different base size to treekin. I don't quite know (mainly because the rulebook doesn't say) how the rules for characters on different sized bases (ie put them on one flank of the other of the unit) interact with the rules for refusing challenges (ie go to the back). Without a unit champ to accept in place of the mage then this debate is likely to come up, as in such a small unit there aren't many places to hide...
ReplyDeleteAs to the 'look out sir', the mage wouldn't get it anyhow, as she's either cav or monsterous cav, and there aren't 5 more of either type in a unit.
Regarding holding the watchtower, if you start off defending it, the unit can't leave it in your first turn, so unless they all die (or you didn't deploy a unit there at all) then the treekin can't get in. Best case for the enemy is they kill 8-9 of your unit on their first turn, and then walk in virtually unopposed in their second.
2 units of 6+ monstrous infantry would allow you to cause disruption, if you can gang up on some poor unfortunate foe.
Watchtower is going to be tricky.. that said, It's not all bad.. as they might get the watch tower to start with at which point it's irrelvent.. and kin are still good at storming the tower and I have the shooting to dwindle the forces first..
ReplyDeleteOh yes, well caught I thought it wasthe same size base for some reason..
Hmm.. might be worth picking up a treekin elder just to prevent this problem.. 20pts isn't the Be all to end all.. hmm Okay, there's not much to drop for it.. Sad face *Okay I'l actually read the rules before next game to find out how that works.. I do have a legal rank.. so I could escape in theory..